Is there a way to reduce the quantity of caffeine on your body, like an antidote?
For example, if you take an expresso or a certain amount of coffee to keep you awake (for finish a work or study), but then you realize that you don't need to be awake all night, is there something that cuts the effect of caffeine (food or drink for example) you have on your body?
I've searched in your FAQ, but didn't find anything.
Thanks in advance
Tiago
Portugal
Counteract Caffeine
For mild caffeine related sleeplessnes, try a banana or two (potassium), rehydrate with some electrolyte, water, and some good sleep foods such as milk, cheese, rice, and melon. It will take time for high levels of caffeine to "half life" out of your system. Each half life is about 5 hours. If you've pumped yourself with 200mg of caffeine, it will likely take 5-10 hours to half life the dose down to a dietary manageable level including using sleep "friendly" foods. If you end up sleepless all night then use the experience to learn that dietary energy management is easier without caffeine ingestion beyond breakfast.
I hope this gets a reply,
I hope this gets a reply, I've just spent an hour scouring Google and ave found NOTHING to pull out, or counteract accidental or unintended caffeen intake.
Side Effects of Pot
Side effects of pot include but are not limited to: getting arrested for otherwise harmless traffic violations, being way too friendly to strangers, caring more about smoking pot than moving out of your parents house, weight gain, slow or very difficult male orgasm, loss of short term memory, prolonged exposure will produce a loss of cognitive abilities, emphysema (weed smoke has 5 times more tar than filtered cigarettes, the sticky makes your lungs sticky, go figure), loss of money, loss of job, loss of girlfriend, loss of children (in that order).
Side effects of Caffeine include: inability to concentrate, increased heart rate, loss or lack of sleep, decreased appetite, increased blood pressure, increased productivity at work, shortened life span...
So.... go to jail a pennyless, lonely, zombie and die a horrible suffocation death on oxygen..... or die sooner and be a generally more productive member of society while not supporting the international illegal drug trade.
THC comes from a plant. So does strychnine.
Pot may or may not be addictive depending on whose smoking it. But I know a lot of my friends didn't eat when they were little because their parents bought weed instead of food. If that's not an addiction I don't know what is. I REALLY enjoy smoking cigarettes... But if it ever came down to a cigarette, or groceries, I'm picking groceries.
Smoking weed is not a cure for caffeine. None of the things listed are cures for caffeine. But we do have un-caffeinated coffee, soda, and tea now.
Working out always helps me. If you're going through some intense caffeine panics try doing some pushups or running a bit. It seems counter-intuitive but the lactic acid that builds up in your muscles from working out seems to do something to counter-act it. It's always helped me.
True effects of marihuana
The part about marihuana is totally nonsense. I guess you mistook it for heroin or cocaine. The majority of marihuana users have no problem with controlling their smoking. There's nothing like an urge to smoke the day after smoking or hours after the effects have worn off. While smoking marihuana will potentiate some of caffeine side effects like increased heartbeat, it will also make you relaxed and calm, it will also relax your muscles so this will counteract shaking after caffeine. Because of narrowing of blood vessels (due to adrenal gland hormones secretion) one feels cold, marihuana should counteract this as well. Of course it also depends on the amount of cannabinoids in marihuana you smoke. Marihuana never had any bad effects on me, it helped me for insomnia, depressive states, and anxiety (although it's proven it may cause anxiety in some people or even paranoia, it all depends on your personal attitude towards smoking, e.g. if you're afraid, it will make you panic, then don't smoke because you cause negative effects yourself).
Other methods of counteracting caffeine side effects are:1) drinking water will speed up caffeine clearance from your body (just remember not to drink too much!)3) eat fruit and vegetables containing potassium, magnesium, and calcium, e.g. bananas and tomatoes are good source of potassium3) drink lemon balm tea - it has mild calming effect due to inhibition of GABA transaminase caused by terpenes found in the plant4) take deep slow breaths5) anxiolytics for strong anxiety (but these should be used as a last resort really); if you have trouble falling asleep, you may also use some 1st generation antihistamines (those crossing the blood-brain barrier), a good example is diphenhydramine found in Benadryl
Kids starved for parents pot addiction???
LOL, you are full of it.
"Lots" of your friends didn't eat because their parents were addicted to pot??? I have a hard time believing that you would even know that "lots" of your little friends smoked pot, let alone that it was the sole cause of their not being any food in the house.
LOL, define lots. And how do you know they were using pot and nothing else?
Besides you obviously just making stuff up...anyone knows that anyone who is a regular pot smoker, is going to have munchies in the house. lol.
What?
Wow, you sure don't like pot. I used to smoke pot, everyday. I had a job, a girlfriend and really a pretty nice life. I only stopped smoking because I got a new job that randomly tested me. I'm guessing you don't have much experience with pot. I'd even venture to say that you don't really have any friends that grew up malnourished because their parents couldn't choose food over weed. Further more I doubt your a scientist, is it lactic acid or an elivated metabolism. Now I don't want to make rash assumptions but I'm going out on a limb… you should chill out and smoke a joint! Oh and one last thing. Ten years later still got that girl and have a kid.…in that order.
I'm an American lit student.
I'm an American lit student. I can tell you for a fact that reading Ralph Waldo Emerson should do the trick.
Chasing the Dragon
Shooting, smoking or snorting a tad bit of heroin will banish the caffeine jitters. This is a longstanding Pacific NW tradition, it's what makes us so healthy: good coffee and good heroin. Also, it helps drive away the depression that comes along with 275 rainy days in a year. Happy schmecking.
My best antidote to caffeine
My best antidote to caffeine is valeriana + hydroxizin (atarax). Makes me like a sealcub meeting a norweigan in an hour.
No antidote
No antidote
Reality check...Also my favorite caffeine "antidote": Kava
This is a really amusing thread. As noted, many of the suggestions will have a depressant effect, which somewhat counteract the stimulant effects of caffeine, but I don't think any of them, will actually increase your body's rate of elimination of caffeine (reduce it's half life in the body).
The comment about nicotine reducing the half life is interesting, but their are no sources cited, and I can't find any source or reason to beleive that. And while alcohol might make you more relaxed, it may actually increases the half life according to wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine#Metabolism_and_half-life). Some of the things like eating a big heavy meal (aka lots of fat and protein) tend to make you sleepier as a normal reaction of thel parasympathetic nervous system.
I don't know of any way to reduce caffein's half life, but I'll throw in my favorite way to reduce the jittery effects of caffeine: Kava extract. Kava is an herb that has been used for over a thousand years, and makes you feel very physically relaxed, even mildly stoned if you take enough, but without clouding the mind at all. Or pure Kava, prepared the traditional way, which is safer and can be much stronger, but extract is a lot more convenient (also traditional Kava is very much an aquired taste...let's just say you don't drink the stuff for it's flavor). I'm not selling the stuff or anything but I think it's a great herb and makes a great combination with caffeine (some people call coffee + Kava a "happy camper"). I've tried lots of brands of Kava extract and some of the strongest and also best priced is from http://www.wholehealth.com/vitamins-supplements/kava-kava. In my experience you need to take between 10-20 pills to start to noticably feel the effects. That sounds like a lot, but keep in mind the number of pills is practically meaningless it's the dose of the active ingredients that matter. If pills scare you, order some quality Kava root.
Despite some of the FDA warnings, it is very safe as long as you DON'T MIX IT WITH OTHER DRUGS. There were a few cases where people mixed it with alcohol and prescription drugs, and/or had improperly prepared extracts, and had problems, but I don't think there's ever been a reported case of permanent illness from pure kava taken in any quantity. Kava actually has a very good safety record and has been used for ages, I wonder if the extra scrutiny that the FDA has given Kava is due to how powerful of an herb it can be and potentially compete with very profitable drugs like anti-depressants and anti-anxiety meds.
10-20 pills, are you serious?
Wow, you didn't say a thing about kava hepatotoxicity, and I'm pretty sure it's contraindicated for liver conditions. Stimulants and depressants are never a good combination. And you would use it as an 'antidote' for caffeine? The liver can metabolize and filter a lot of byproducts, but I just think this idea is overkill. Also, pure versions of this are not necessarily safer than synthetics; there is just not as much available information about them altogether since it they are not regulated as explicitly. Use at your own risk
Don't squeal until you read this:
This combination works for me, don't ask me about the science of it. I can vouch for it, try for yourself. 3 raw egg yolks and a few gelcaps of PhosphatadylSerine. They synergize somehow, I have used it when I felt manic from overexertion. I got the idea because they are both phospholipids and there is (though much less) some PS in egg yolk. Cooking the yolks negates the effect. I eat eggs from a local farm that still have traces of bird smear on them and I've never become sick. Unless the egg is punctured their is very little risk. I won't juse them if they even have those tanslucent "pre-cracks" which become cracks later. I look for perfect eggs. Just wash the eggs. They advertise PS for cognitive enhancement; I don't believe it. It affects my mood a little... lifts it while applying some subtle relaxation and no stimulant effect. Adding raw eggyolks mulitplies this effect for me and sometimes makes me feel too understimulated... without feeling sedated. Hard to explain. Have used it for countering the effects of caffeine. I doubt that it effects the metabolism of caffeine or hastens its removal from one's system.
Valerian root will help with anxiety. Won't effect metabolism. Melatonin will help too. These are sedating and when present with enough caffeine the feeling is strange... though I wouldn't say uncomfortable. Water doesn't help me. It just replenishes what the caffeine pushes out and prevents muscle spasm.
If your doctor will prescribe benzos on an as needed basis this can be useful for too much caffeine(and the ensuing panic attacks). Coffee is a must for concentration for many when in college. The effects are not always consistent in my own experience.
Freeze dried coffee tastes terrible but has less potential for panic in my experience. The alkaloid ratio must be altered by the freeze-dry process. Its all bad but the individual packets are the least bad. Starbucks is the exception, they put ground bean in theirs, rounding out the alkaloid profile. I don't buy the large containers even of the same brand as the individual packets. I can taste the difference.
That's what.
Where I'm from we call mixing
Where I'm from we call mixing "uppers" and "downers" speed ballin'
It is very bad for your heart because one second you are going full speed and the next you can't hold your eyes open. So if you ingest caffeine and want to lose the buzz, eat some crackers and drink a lot of water. Also understand that you can lose your life from caffeine. Research people!!
Caffeine & Adrenaline
I read/learned somewhere that caffeine usually has a 5-hour effect that peaks at about 3-hours except when the body is adrenalized (has A&P? active in the cell) at time it's metabolized and in that case it can have effect for up to 20-hours! This is why sleeping meds sometimes aren't effective. Benadryl might be because it wouuld tend to calm a system that's amped up from an allergic reaction so it might in general calm adrenaline in the cells.
Therefore, despite the mentioned lack of an antidote, it would seem that something that calms the adrenaline down might help. This could include yoga, Tai Chi, meditation, hypnosis or gaba, kava, chamomile with honey, etc.
Someone out there with knowlege of naturopathy or physics might have some other suggestions!
Best remedy!
The best way to get the caffeine out of the body is to drink a shit load of water to increase the rate of urination and flush it out so to speak, but for me, I find the best way to counteract the effect is to beat one out, I always feel relaxed afterwards, just saying.
i touch myself!!!!
anytime i over do it with caffeine or my anxiety goes thru the roof (panic attack) i masturbate, if my mans around then i have him do me real hard, ALWAYS WORKS ;)
Love it!! This usually works
Love it!! This usually works for a hangover too :-)
Benedryl (diphenhydamine)
Benedryl (diphenhydamine) kills/dilutes the effect of caffeine for me. A shot of brandy works pretty good also.
caffeine
Try Citric Acid
Coffee comments
Thanks for all the comments! some were really funny!
Caffeine "Antidote" Tried
Here is an unofficial experiment. I am very sensitive to caffeine but I have two exams and a presentation next week so I was falling asleep studying and to force myself to stay awake I used 4 cups of high caffeine Black Nepal and Green tea mixed. About an hour later I felt my heart racing and felt like I would die giving me anxiety. I searched and found this site and tried the following advised remedies and with 5-10 minutes was feeling much better.
1. Took a magnesium supplement
2. Drank 2 glasses of spring water
3. Ate an egg sandwich with 2 ounces of melted cheese on top, 1 slice of canadian bacon (optional) on an english muffin.
I still don't feel tired and my heart is still a little jumpy but I immediately (5-10 min. felt myself calm down)
caffeine antidote REALLY WORKED FOR ME!!!
This worked AMAZINGLY well for me! I took 3 CALCIUM-MAGNESIUM-CITRATE capsules, drank a bottle of spring water, and felt super calm and relaxed within 5-10 minutes! I've NEVER found anything before that worked so fast and so easily! Each capsule had 1,000mg of Calcium, 500 mg of Magnesium, and 400 IU of Vitamin D. I don't know if the 1500mg of Magnesium was what did the trick, or if the other ingredients helped as well, but I am SO HAPPY right now to feel SO SUPER CALM. Thanks a million for this excellent caffeine antidote!!!
Um...
...Are you sure it worked?
Foods with Melatonin
Purslane has the most melatonin and it is buffeted with omega 3 healthful oil.
Get it at a well stocked produce section which caters to Mexicans.
Eat some toast with smoked salmon on top, and keep your heart lubed
so that it is not jittery from the knocks of the caffeine.
There are no chemical isomers of caffeine : no teaine from tea, mateine from yerba mate, etc.
The structure forbids it. Caffeine is caffeine.
Heavy food
I find just eating some heavy food helps. It is common to have a coffee after heavy food to wake oneself up. It makes sense, then, that heavy food should counteract the feeling of too much caffeine.
Caffeïne 'antidotes'
A way to really reduce the amount of caffeine in your body: smoking cigarettes. The half life of caffeine will be lowered by 50% (so caffeïne leaves your body twice as fast). Of course this isn't a reason to pick up smoking! Drinking a few glasses of water and taking a high dose of vitamin C (> 1000 mg) may also speed up the breakdown a bit. Another way to counteract the effects of caffeïne: valerian and melatonin are natural and side effect-free ways to induce sleep. There is a big array of herbs you can take for this reason, and stronger sedatives will also work which can be dangerous so know what you are doing! Always check if there are side effects and look if it is worth any of the possible side effects. Alcohol may also help but use your common sense if it's worth the hangover and don't mix with other sleep-inducing substances. Don't use alcohol with a big caffeïne overdose: alcohol is a diuretic too so you may end up going to the toilet every 10 minutes and be at risk of dehydration. You can smoke some pot too but don't get into legal trouble, that's may cost you more nights of sleep than your caffeïne overdose. The best way to get a decent sleep is of course just not taking too much caffeïne a few hours before your intention to sleep!
Smoking Pot?
Ok I have insomnia and was prescribed by my doctor a benzodiazepine medication as a sleep aid. I do know the risks involved that one can form a dependency and may have the potential of becoming addicted to this type of medication but it is being monitored and prescribed by a licensed physician. I was told by a friend maybe I should try pot but I declined. I am already having a hard time dealing with getting over one addiction and don't want add another. I have to admit that I am scared about taking the sleeping medication that was prescribed but with no sleep, the benefits out way the risks. But when it comes to pot, it is illegal and enough said. Yes, there maybe so called quick fixes out there to try and get over the caffeine withdrawals but we need to think about the potential harm that these drugs could do to our bodies. If you are not sleeping because of caffeine withdrawals, I would strongly advise you to seek professional medical help. Sleep deprivation in the long run can cause you more anxiety and harm to your body which will make the healing process of caffeine withdrawals seem never ending.
better perspective
Well for one pot is not addictive. Its a lot like medication in the sence that one may becoms dependant on the use of THC in order to bring a more optomistic perspective to their life style. After people smoke pot they usually smoke it again in the near following future because some people have a very satisfying reaction to it. Other people when high can black out or drop and just sleep through the effect of the drug, in which case, would be a potential solution to you're problem. Other people get hyperactive and happy, and can have minor hallucenations which would becounter productive to your issues. I do notknow how you might react to cannipis, but it could either knock you on your ass and make you sleep like a baby or make you trip balls and be up all night watching tv. Of course if you were meeting the depiction of that second description you would most likely stop giving a shit about having insomnia and probably be perfectly happy watching teletubbies while laughing your ass off and/or sobbing at the idea of how much you wish you had a television in your stomach.
the best ways to stop
the best ways to stop caffeine is to start smoking, are you kidding me?
You have obviously never
You have obviously never ripped a fat bong toke before. Am I right?
Seriously
How stupid are you? Advising anyone to smoke, drink, smoke dope and take sleeping tablets.
Water, vitamin C and melatonin (a natural hormone you can get at a drug store) are all good.
You are mad
Uhhm you are obviously not thinking this through. Yes smoking is bad. Drinking is not bad if in moderation(even a small amount of alcohol is actually beneficial. Beer for example contains malt and hops which is good for sleeping and has no side effects or risks. As long as you aren't allergic
Increasing Melatonin intake will NOT help because Caffeine actually inhibits your melatonin from doing what its supposed to. which is to make you sleep. Also too high melatonin levels gives head aches !!
Water wont really help as much as it does not anti-oxidize.(although you will probably strain your kidneys to get rid of the caffeine quicker)
Vitamin C will help as it is a antioxidant. Although not a very powerful one Rather drink Rooibos tea (Translated and known outside of South-Africa & Holland as "Redbush" tea which is the only drink in the world with which you can actually completely replace your daily water intake) (Caffeine free, low in tannin, rich in antioxidants and a million other health benefits)
If you cant find that. Use Jasmine/Ginger teas. Or eat some Blueberries(Foods with high antioxidant levels
If all else fails a cup of Horlics
Science
So I think the real argument here, stems from the science of stimulants versus depressants. OF the above mentioned alcohol, sleeping pills and marijuana are depressants. Both caffeine and nicotine are stimulants. Except that caffeine and nicotine have different chemical properties. Nicotine works directly on the nociceptors and dopamine receptors in the brain causing a calming affect. The actual jittering effects of the nicotine could be calmed simply by affecting the "pleasure" stimulation of the dopamine receptors in the brain. On the other hand the depressants would make sense that they help counteract caffeine because one is an upper and one is a downer in the simplest sense. A stimulant can be countered by a depressant. Simple science really.
Now the other argument that I am understanding is one about actual recommendations for taking this advise. Of course it would not be advisable to do or start something that is habit forming. But people do idiotic things every day without rhyme or reason.
Simply stated in science: It is understandable that the above recommendations would have the possibility to work. Recommendations aside, that is for any one person to decide.
WOW
Marijuana is not a depressant! Please do your research before posting. Take 2,000 to 2,500 of GABA on days of high caffeine consumption with about 400-800mg of Magnessium, a ZMA or Calcium/Magnessium/Vit. D combo would also work.
honesty is stupid?
That was not stupid. Factually it is correct. Smoking reduces the half life of caffiene. I don't think he was advising anyone to do those things, just answering the question.
Relax.
you're an idiot
caffeine is not radioactive, so it does not have a half life. nice try.
To guy who said caffeine has no half life
Hes talking about the rate at wich caffeine breaks down in your body. Its refrered to as the half-life. Caffeines is about 6 hours. It takes about 12 hours for your body to completely break down the caffeine molecule.
Everything has a half-life
Every medication, prescription or over-the-counter, has a half-life. Any substance you put in your body has a time that it takes your body to eliminate half of it. I am a nurse and we talk about the half-life of meds all the time, and 99.99999% of them are not radioactive.
wow
half life does not only apply to radioactive substances.....u looked absolutely ridiculous with this comment.
Research before you post
Biological half-life...did you go to high school?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine#Metabolism_and_half-life
haha
i'm pretty sure this is something we learn in middle school too
Lets Stop the Tolerance Garabage
Telling people to use harmful methods is never appropriate. Smoking cigarettes or pot can easily lead to a lifetime habit than can kill. Keep the advice to what is health and real.
if ur in the right mental
if ur in the right mental state one cigarette will not lead to a lifetime habit and im livin proof right now that aone cig helps dirastically dont believe me try it urself im not lying im serious
Ha-ha-ha
You people are funny. Why can a pot-smoking lifetime habit be bad, but a coffee-drinking lifetime habit is ok? Is that double standards or what? Besides, there is little harm from pot, it actually is used as a Medicine; however, coffee obviously has some serious side effects, to which this very page is an evidence. So check your own belief system, baby, before next time you think that you are smarter than others.
Adios!
medicine
Coffee is used as a treatment for asthma.. Everything in moderation, no? Michael Meade tells a beautiful tale of medicine entering the world on his cd "The Great Dance".. I'd try to paraphrase here, but I let my friend borrow the cd and I couldn't possibly say it right.
To Ha-ha-ha
You implied that there is little harm from pot because it is used as a medicine. Medicine, however, can cause great harm. For many medications, the only reason to put up with the often terrible side effects is that the medication is taken for an even more serious purpose. I like your argument comparing coffee with marijuana. Life isn't always reasonable or fair, is it?
Keep your sense of humor.
Reply to smokingpost comment
I totally agree that pot is way less harmful than caffeine is. Pot is non-addictive, while you actually have to withdraw from caffeine. Just look at the bad side effects of caffeine:severe panic attacks, dizziness, severe fatigue, body feeling like a lead weight, digestive problems, sleeplessness ,etc.... So, lets see a nice calming "drug"(which it is not in my book....have you heard anyone dying from smoking pot?!) compared to a drug that affects you body so much that you withdraw like an ex coke addict. So...point being do you research...and smole a joint it will totally chill you out and no withdrawal! :)
really
you think smoking pot once to reduce the effect of caffeine will kill you. obviously you've never smoked pot before.
mmm
I smoke Pot and is the worst mistake ive had, i wish i was a doctor or something, instead Im a Pot addict, whoever says good things about Pot is full of crap. Stop now while you still can